Oh No Not Again White Glove Guys

" A cannibalism problem? Really? I'm then glad you weren't eaten! " — Yep Man

Beyond the Beef is a side quest in Fallout: New Vegas.

Contents

• 1 Synopsis
• 2 Quick walkthrough
• 3 Detailed walkthrough
  • 3.1 Working with Mortimer
    • 3.ane.ane Return Ted to his male parent and discover a substitute for the banquet
      • 3.1.i.1 Quest stages
    • 3.i.ii Kill Ted, and frame his father for the murder
      • 3.ane.2.1 Quest stages
  • 3.ii Post-obit the Investigator
    • three.2.1 Quest stages
  • 3.3 The Bloodthirsty Courier
• 4 Notes
• 5 Behind the scenes
• 6 Bugs
• 7 Gallery
• viii References

Synopsis

Well known brahmin rancher Heck Gunderson asks the Courier to rail down his son Ted, who has disappeared in the Ultra-Luxe Casino Hotel. Ted was kidnapped past agents of Mortimer of the White Glove Society, in an try to return the White Glove Gild to cannibalism.

Alert: This quest is tied to Pheeble Will. If choosing the vengeful manner to impale Heck Gunderson and/or his son, depending on your choices, it is possible to neglect one of the ii quests.

Quick walkthrough

Side Quest: Beyond the Beef

Go to the Ultra-Luxe casino and speak with Heck Gunderson.

Speak with Marjorie and then Mortimer, the managers of the Ultra-Luxe.

Sort out anybody'south problems by either:

Assist return Heck Gunderson's son to him alive, curing the White Glove Society cannibalism in the process.

Assistance render Heck Gunderson's son to him alive and help Mortimer return the White Glove Society to cannibalism by killing one of your human companions or a man named Carlyle St. Clair III.

Kill and cook Heck Gunderson's son, blame his father for the murder, and assistance the White Glove Society render to cannibalism.

Impale every White Glove member yous see on the way to Ted and lead him out alive.

Advantage: 100 or 500 XP, 250 or 500 caps and the Strip fame or White Glove Society fame.

Detailed walkthrough

In the Ultra-Luxe casino the Courier finds Heck Gunderson, a wealthy brahmin baron, sitting at the bar and upset about his missing son. After questioning the purpose of his visit, one tin offer assistance in finding his son, Ted Gunderson. Then get talk with Marjorie, one of the managers of the Ultra-Luxe Casino & Hotel, located at the Gourmand eating house and learn that a bride went missing in the hotel, which is damaging their reputation. At some signal in the conversation she will inform you that the White Glove Society were cannibals, but this practise is at present forbidden. Y'all have the choice to tell her that you are a cannibal too, every bit a prevarication (unless y'all have the Cannibal perk), which does not impress her and volition lead to White Glove Society infamy.

Later you inform her that you are looking for another man, much to her atheism, she will tell you lot to find the other manager, Mortimer. When talking to Mortimer you have several options.

• You can lie, with a Speech of 62, or use the Cannibal perk, to tell him that y'all are a cannibal likewise (no infamy gained), he will be euphoric and explain his plan to return the White Glove Guild to cannibalism, by killing or arranging a substitute for Ted Gunderson.
• You lot can just inquire him straight if you have evil Karma and non-neutral Strip reputation.
• You tin follow Marjorie's advice and enquire him about an investigator searching for clues about a missing bride in the hotel.

Working with Mortimer

Mortimer is very displeased that the Social club is denying their bones impulses and wishes the render of the erstwhile practices. For this, he will accommodate a banquet in which members will be served meals prepared with human mankind. For this purpose he bundled a kidnapping, but the victim was able to escape. Having to observe a substitute at the last minute, those loyal to him kidnapped Ted Gunderson, son of Heck Gunderson, a very powerful brahmin baron.

Mortimer wants to get rid of Ted in a way that doesn't leave whatever suspicion of the Ultra-Luxe; or, if information technology'south non possible, kill Ted and use him as a repast, framing his father for the death. If you want to spare Ted's life you take to provide a substitute for the banquet, which tin can exist one of your human companions if you give this proposition to him or the original victim that was able to escape, Carlyle St. Clair Three. Note, that you lot can't utilise imitation strange pie for this task. He then volition provide keys for the Ultra-Luxe freezer, Gourmand kitchen and Ultra-Luxe Penthouse, besides as a cattle prod.

Return Ted to his father and observe a substitute for the feast

• If y'all want to return Ted alive to his father, go to the Gourmand restaurant and use the elevator to go to the basement.
• A White Glove Club guard volition ask what y'all are doing at that place. Inform him that Mortimer wishes to get rid of the kid without arousing suspicion if he cooperates, with a 55 Speech check.
• Open up the freezer and talk to Ted. You take to lie about the people who did this to him and laissez passer a 38 Speech check, indicating that maybe it was some competitors trying to screw his father'due south negotiation almost brahmin with the "White Pants Society" (in Ted'due south ain words).
• Leave with him through the Gourmand restaurant kitchen. If y'all endeavour to use the members-only door everyone in the basement will plow hostile (even if you don't open the door).
• Guide Ted to his father, who volition be furious and demand to know who did this to Ted. Lie that you don't know and receive 500 caps from him, besides as some White Glove Society fame.

The next pace is to notice a substitute for the banquet.

Y'all may either:

Sacrifice one of your human companions past going to the kitchen and locking them in the freezer. This will end the quest. Notation: you will lose anything they are carrying.

or:

Travel to Carlyle St. Clair'south house and convince Carlyle to go to the Ultra-Luxe, or knock him unconscious and put his torso in a dumpster close to his business firm. His dwelling is located close to Freeside Due north Archway; travel to the gate and follow the road between northward and northeast in a straight line.

There are many ways to deal with Carlyle St. Clair. You can convince him to become to the Ultra-Luxe with a 65 Speech check; if yous have the Black Widow perk you can advise to have sex activity with him in the dumpster; with 45 guns y'all can pistol-whip him; request him about himself volition reveal he was black-labeled by his family and with a 45 Spoken language you can convince him that the White Glove Gild can clean his name; request almost a pain he has in the neck will lead to a vii Strength, 45 Medicine or 45 Unarmed check that will knock him unconscious. If you don't have whatever of these skills, use a cattle prod that Mortimer provided to you (make sure that your companions are abroad, if not they may accidentally kill him). Drag his body to the dumpster and place him within. It should be noted that if you take the Cannibal perk, devouring him will brand you fail the quest.

Go back to Mortimer after dealing with St. Clair, or your companion, and proceeds 500 XP and a huge boost of Strip and White Glove Society fame. This concludes the quest and the White Glove volition return to cannibalism after the 7PM banquet.

ALTERNATIVELY:

You can steal or gain through dialogue a recipe from the head chef, Philippe, that will let you create a human being mankind alternative to fool Mortimer and all the White Glove members (55 Barter check will get y'all his recipe, 55 Medicine check will get you lot his recipe and the key to the freezer where they're keeping Ted). This will result in Mortimer revealing himself at the feast without the actor having to kill anyone, not even the cook. This is possible if the actor tin can pass a Castling, Medicine or Speech cheque to go the recipes and remove the cook without having to kill him. Create the dish, and await until seven PM for the banquet to begin. Use the intercom to telephone call the head waiter. When the waiter arrives you must either be disguised equally a fellow member of the White Glove Order or hidden out of sight, otherwise he will become hostile.

If you plan on freeing Ted and exposing Mortimer, talk to him simply afterward the head waiter has left the room, preferably the expanse, because he will be hostile if Ted is post-obit you. Utilize the direct route to the banquet hall, and sneak while you enter, because the White Glove members will exist hostile to y'all. Expect for Mortimer to finish his speech communication, walk up to him, stand upward and quickly talk to him, because otherwise your companions and Ted will attack the bouncer, causing the entire room to become hostile to you (if you observe you lot are unable to avoid this, open the console, click on Ted, and blazon in "tai" and press Enter. This will disable his AI and prevent him from attacking. Practice the same for any companions. Exist certain to do it over again to re-enable their AI once you take dealt with Mortimer). Expose Mortimer's program, and talk to Marjorie for your boost to White Glove Club fame. You as well gain Strip fame if y'all persuade (35 Spoken language) Heck Gunderson non to finish selling brahmin meat to White Glove society.

Quest stages

Phase	Condition	Description
10		Ask around the Ultra-Luxe for information regarding Ted Gunderson'southward disappearance.
20		Inquire with Mortimer at the Ultra-Luxe most the investigator.
eighty		Get Ted back to his father if he is still alive.
100		Talk to Ted Gunderson, who'due south being held in a room below the Gourmand.
105		Render Ted to his father at the Ultra-Luxe's Height Shelf Bar.
110		Secure an acceptable replacement for Ted Gunderson as the White Glove Order's principal course.
120		Talk to Carlyle St. Clair at his residence due north of the Strip.
125		(Optional) Lock one of your homo companions in the Ultra-Luxe kitchen freezer as replacement for Ted.
130		(Optional) Take the recipe-book from the melt, non-violently (optional) and make a human being-flesh alternative and allow Mortimer expose himself to the people, while they dine on a meat that'due south not human-flesh.
200		Return to Mortimer in the Ultra-Luxe

Impale Ted, and frame his father for the murder

If yous desire to complete the quest Pheeble Will and receive a very nice reward from both Mortimer and Walter Phebus, killing Ted is advantageous.

Take the quest from Walter only don't accept any of the Barter checks. Go back to the Ultra-Luxe and tell Mortimer that yous want to help him (you may have to lie to him). Mortimer will give you a key that lets you enter the kitchen basement. A White Glove Society guard will ask what you are doing, inform him that Mortimer wishes to go rid of the kid. Open the freezer and talk to Ted. Yous accept the option to talk a little or simply tell him that yous are finishing what the White Gloves started, which will cause him to turn hostile. After killing Ted, collect a bit of blood and some remains from the corpse to frame his begetter.

Annotation: This option is notwithstanding available if you lie about your intention when agreeing to help Mortimer, simply keep in mind that you mustn't agree to help Heck Gunderson find his son when request what he is doing in the Ultra-Luxe in the quest Pheeble Will or the choice to assistance Mortimer frame Heck will not announced. But even and so it is nevertheless possible to go with this option by just going about the quest to help Mortimer and kill Ted anyway, as the quest will simply advance to the part of framing Heck equally presently as Ted is dead.

With the fake bear witness in your inventory, get to the Ultra-Luxe Penthouse. The penthouse tin be accessed from an lift located in a room behind Mortimer'due south desk-bound. Ii bodyguards working for Gunderson, his hired hands patrol the suite and are hostile, but can exist killed without Karma penalty. Distribute the blood and remains of Ted in the bed and in the bathroom sink. Then go to the Strip and inform a securitron that a murder happened in the Ultra-Luxe. After making a surreal and mocking speech about the constabulary, the securitron will proceed to abort Heck Gunderson, who will resist and end up being killed.

Go on to Mortimer for your reward of 500 XP, Strip and White Glove Society fame, and the result of the White Glove Lodge returning to cannibalism after the 7PM feast.

Later on talking to Mortimer, go back to Walter for an additional advantage of 200 XP and one,500 caps or 110 XP and 400 caps.

Actress info: This method volition permit the Courier to complete the entire line of tasks in Render Unto Caesar.

Quest stages

Stage	Condition	Clarification
10		Ask around the Ultra-Luxe for information regarding Ted Gunderson's disappearance.
twenty		Inquire with Mortimer at the Ultra-Luxe about the investigator.
80		Get Ted back to his male parent if he is still alive.
100		Talk to Ted Gunderson who's being held in a room beneath the Gourmand.
150		Kill Ted Gunderson.
160		Collect samples of Ted'south corpse for use in framing his father.
170		Distribute your samples around Heck Gunderson'southward bed and sink in his Ultra-Luxe penthouse suite.
180		Send a Securitron from the Strip to investigate Heck Gunderson's suite.
200		Render to Mortimer in the Ultra-Luxe

Following the Investigator

There is also a way to save Ted and preclude the White Glove Society from returning to cannibalism:

When yous talk to Marjorie near the disappearance of Ted, she tells you that an investigator was looking for clues about a missing bride who had stayed at the hotel, then she directs you to Mortimer. After inquiring Mortimer near the investigator, he gives y'all a key to the investigator's room. If you ask most the White Glove Society's reputation of cannibalism, y'all take the opportunity to prevarication with 62 Spoken communication or utilise the Cannibal perk to tell him that you are too a carnivorous. Mortimer volition reveal his plan to yous and request that you help him. If you agree to help without lying, you will not be able to obtain the note Matchbook from the expressionless investigator or meet with Chauncey. If you prevarication nearly helping, Mortimer will requite you the Penthouse key, kitchen key, and freezer key.

Go to the investigator's room, located in the Ultra-Luxe Hotel rooms. You will discover that the investigator is dead. Search his body for the matchbook note, which volition tell you that he had a meeting with someone in the Ultra-Luxe steam room at 4PM. Two White Glove Society members will appear and assault with dress canes. Later on dealing with them, head to the steam room and wait until 4PM.

In the steam room, you will meet Chauncey, a fellow member of the White Glove Society who wants to end Mortimer from returning to cannibalism. He tells y'all that a feast at 7PM will serve a meal made with human flesh and that Mortimer is behind the disappearance of Ted Gunderson. Mortimer's program is to brand a speech telling the White Glove Order what they ate and so they will pass the taboo and return to cannibalism.

Chauncey doesn't know where Ted is, but he suspects that he is being held in the Members-Only section of the Ultra-Luxe. Chauncey warns you that if Ted is seen in the hotel, the other members volition assault to protect their secret. He gives two suggestions for freeing Ted:

• Y'all tin can spike the vino with a Med-X and 25 Medicine to create drugged wine, then escape with Ted while the members are comatose (if you demand a Med-X, y'all tin can try to observe 1 in a first assistance kit, although it is rare. There are three kits in the basement: one in each of the two adjacent basement kitchens, and i in the storage room side by side to the bath).
• You tin cook up a simulated repast that volition trick Mortimer into exposing himself without corrupting the balance of the White Glove members. Co-ordinate to Chauncey, at the end of Mortimer'due south oral communication, you tin enter the banquet hall with Ted alive and cause the Society to miscarry Mortimer.

Chauncey recommends the 2d approach, since the first would only be a temporary solution, and information technology would not prevent Mortimer from trying once more in the future. Right after yous say good day, an assassin will announced and impale Chauncey. Note: Chauncey is scripted to die. Even if you kill the assassin before a unmarried shot is fired against Chauncey, he will however dice instantly as if he had been shot.

After dealing with the assassin, proceed to the Gourmand. If your reputation on the Strip is "accepted" or better, Marjorie volition sponsor y'all equally a member and give you formal wear and a key to the Members-But section. Behind the bar is a door to the kitchen that can be lockpicked, or use the fundamental if it was provided by Mortimer before (or take the long way from the casino floor to the Members-Only section and through the door behind the bar to the kitchen.)

In the upper level are 2 White Glove members torching meat with flamers. There are 6 pieces of infected brahmin meat on the counters. Use the elevator or caput down the stairs to the basement. At that place is a White Glove Society member patrolling the hallway. If he sees you and asks what you are doing in the basement, you lot can lie with 55 Speech and say that Mortimer wants to movement the kid, or you lot tin can choose a 35 Repair check to convince him that yous are a plumber checking for leaks.

Go down the hall and look for the kitchen where the executive chef, Philippe, is located (there is a Recipes - Brahmin Wellington on the counter). To gratis Ted, you can use either the freezer primal or the final adjacent to the freezer door (at a loss of Karma,) but you must bargain with Philippe first. At that place are several things that can be done:

• You can pickpocket Philippe for the notation Philippe'south recipes and the freezer key.
• You can kill and loot him. This gains White Glove Society infamy unless it is a stealth kill. You also proceeds Karma since he is evil.
• You can antagonize Philippe through dialogue until y'all take the opportunity for several skill checks. (Note: you lot can exercise multiple checks if you lot talk to him again later.)
  • Spoken language check: With 55 Speech, you can tell him you saw a Radroach. He will run across the pantry, at which indicate you tin use the terminal to close the door, trapping him within. However, you lot demand 75 Survival to brand false strange meat pie without a recipe, or create drugged wine with a Med-X and 25 Medicine.
  • Barter check: With 55 Barter, you can say you are major publisher looking for a cookbook. Then at that place are two options: pay him 100 caps for an advance on the book, or pass another 55 Oral communication check to tell him to give you his recipes. However, you lot all the same need to discover a way to get rid of him and a manner to get into the freezer (if y'all don't want to apply the terminal).
  • Medicine check: With 55 Medicine, yous can tell him "harebrained psychobabble" until he has a breakdown. He gives you lot his recipes and freezer key earlier fleeing.

If you wish to melt imitation strange meat pie and expose Mortimer, you volition need Philippe's recipes and 6 Intelligence or 75 Survival to improvise 1.

If you wish to brand drugged wine, you demand a Med-X and 25 Medicine. (If you need a Med-10, you can endeavor to find one in a first aid kit, although it is rare. At that place are three kickoff assistance kits in the basement: one in each of the two adjacent basement kitchens, and one in the storage room next to the bathroom.) In that location is a vino canteen y'all can examine on a shelf in a higher place the stove in Philippe's kitchen, and another wine bottle on a table in the vino cellar room (in the room side by side to the other kitchen). You only need to drug one bottle, but it cannot be taken despite the red steal bulletin. All the same, you can pickpocket the head waiter while he is carrying it; the members at the feast however stop up being drugged. (This makes it possible to keep both the drugged wine and imitation strange meat pie in your inventory, if you as well melt the simulated nutrient and "steal" it.)

After cooking the food or drugging the vino, wait until 7PM (when the dinner guests arrive,) then use the intercom to phone call the caput waiter to come up down and collect the wine/meal. If Marjorie did non sponsor you every bit a White Glove Society member before, disguise yourself in White Glove attire before the head waiter arrives, or stay subconscious so that he does non become hostile. (For whatsoever reason, sometimes the waiter stops in front of the kitchen door when told to pick up the wine; to ready this, just close the door, and he'll recollect the second canteen in the wine cellar.) Information technology's likewise advisable to free Ted after the head waiter has left, since seeing Ted volition turn the waiter hostile. When you open the door, Ted will be very upset, demanding to know who did this to him. You lot have 3 options: say in that location'due south no time to explicate, tell him the truth, or lie and say you don't know who did it. In gild to gain White Glove Club fame when the quest ends, don't tell Ted (or his father) the truth, and so cull "There's no time to explain" or lie to him.

Have Ted follow you out of the kitchen and to the right, being careful to make sure the waiter isn't still walking back. Follow the stairs up and become through the door to the White Glove private dining area (if y'all're non a member yous'll need to utilize a cardinal from Marjorie or Mortimer, or pick the lock). If the waiter took the wine, everyone will be comatose. You tin can loot the bodies, Mortimer beingness among them. If the waiter took the imitation meal, crouch down and hide behind the bar until Mortimer finishes his spoken language. Note: You must await for him to stop his feast spoken language with the words "bon appetit" earlier you approach Mortimer. Doing so beforehand will crusade the other White Gloves to get hostile to you.

As before long as Mortimer finishes, simply jump over the counter, run over to him and initiate dialogue. Exposing him will cause him to abscond, just the other diners - the ones who might otherwise take attacked you - should remain neutral. If you are successfully able to attack Mortimer after exposing him just before he flees the room, the other diners may collectively mob Mortimer and assist yous in killing him. Afterwards, talk to Marjorie to receive White Glove Society fame.

At this point you lot can either return Ted to his male parent, or yous tin can carry out the revenge path of Pheeble Will every bit detailed in the section above.

To consummate the quest peacefully, render with Ted to his father. If you didn't lie to Ted in the freezer, he will tell his father what happened and Heck will want to impose a blockade of nutrient on the Strip. Yous have the option to non allow this happen with a 35 Speech cheque, which volition pb to Strip fame. If you are unable to laissez passer the check, you will gain infamy. If you lied to Ted in the freezer (or said there wasn't fourth dimension to explain), his begetter asks who was backside the kidnapping. If you lot tell the truth, you have to pass the same 35 Voice communication check, but this time yous will simply proceeds Strip fame. If you lie to him, you will proceeds both Strip fame and White Glove Guild fame.

You as well go 500 XP and 500 caps for completing the quest.

Quest stages

Stage	Status	Description
10		Ask effectually the Ultra-Luxe for information regarding Ted Gunderson's disappearance.
20		Inquire with Mortimer at the Ultra-Luxe nigh the investigator.
30		Go into the investigator'southward room at the Ultra-Luxe.
35		Search the Investigator for clues.
40		Meet with the investigator's contact in the Ultra-Luxe steam room at 4pm.
fifty		Find a way to gain access to the Members-Only department of the Gourmand.
60		(Optional) Find a sponsor to help you lot join the White Glove Lodge.
70		(Optional) Alert Heck Gunderson to his son'due south situation.
75		(Optional) Get rid of Philippe and melt for the banquet using his recipe for human flesh.
76		(Optional) Drug the wine at the White Glove Gild banquet.
78		(Optional) Employ the intercom to phone call in the head waiter.
79		(Optional) Bring Ted to the Members Only department to expose Mortimer at the end of his banquet speech.
lxxx		Get Ted back to his male parent if he is still live.
90		Talk to Heck Gunderson.

The Bloodthirsty Courier

Y'all likewise have the unmarked option to apply Wasteland manners in the pedant face of the White Glove Society, if you don't mind the possibility of being vilified by them.

Follow the quest as detailed in the "Following the Investigator" section above, but later on discovering from Chauncey the plans regarding Ted, the Courier has the unmarked option to tell Heck Gunderson what'south happening.

After yous take given Heck the news, he offers a different solution: but shoot everyone in your style and render Ted to him. He provides you lot with a sawed-off shotgun and some shells.

Note that if you do this, y'all tin kill all of the White Gloves in the casino with no Karma loss and never have your weapons taken again. You tin can even go into the cashier'due south office and clean information technology out to get your possessions back, suffering just minor Karma loss for opening/stealing things. And so you volition have all your weapons and can continue the quest uninterrupted, although you may want to disguise as a White Glove to forbid unwanted attacks. Only be sure not to kill Marjorie or Mortimer or the quest will fail. Even after all the killing, one time you complete the quest you may still go from hated to idolized by the White Gloves.

Once you return Ted to his father the quest is completed, and y'all proceeds 500 XP and 500 caps from Heck.

Notes

• It is possible to skip virtually all of this quest and however receive the XP points and reward from Heck. After speaking with Heck for the first fourth dimension and agreeing to assist find his son, only sneak into the Gourmand kitchen via the locked door backside the bar. Information technology is possible to do this undetected. One time inside, sneak by the 2 White Gloves roasting the brahmin meat and head down the stairs. In that location is some other White Glove on patrol in this hallway. If he detects you he volition confront y'all and you can laissez passer a Speech check to convince him that Mortimer told you lot to motility the boy or tell him you're there to gear up some leaky pipes. If you pass one of these Spoken language checks he will let you keep. Any of the doors on the left side of the hallway volition lead yous to where Phillipe is standing. He will be facing the wall and it is possible to sneak by him undetected. Backside him is the door to the freezer room. Hack the terminal (accessing the terminal will cause y'all to lose Karma) to gain access to the freezer. This is where Ted is being held. Talk to Ted and he volition follow you out. It is possible to sneak by Phillipe again. If you are detected past Phillipe after freeing Ted he will get hostile, along with all the other White Gloves in the kitchen surface area. The White Glove in the hallway will non confront you fifty-fifty if he sees Ted with you. Sneak back upstairs and out of the kitchen. Once y'all're out of the kitchen find Heck speak with him. You will have all the dialogue options as you would commonly.
• The conclusion to help the White Glove Society or not does not accept any repercussions in the game or in the quest Return Unto Caesar other than giving some Legion reputation and a lot of bad Karma to the thespian. This is the only quest in New Vegas that doesn't comport any repercussions between factions, towns, locations or non-player characters. This is besides one of the few quests that allows you to subvert the entire progression and kill almost anybody in it without dissentious your reputation or Karma.
• The actor can both expose Mortimer and impale Heck and Ted without framing Heck. To practice this, expose Mortimer as detailed in the above walkthrough, so kill Ted in an abandoned area of the casino so you are non seen. Report to Heck that Ted is dead and tell him the White Glove Guild kidnapped him, which leads into the aforementioned 35 Speech cheque to not stop supplying the Strip meat as though the thespian brought Ted back alive. Heck volition remain at the bar subsequently dialogue ends, simply draw your weapon and kill him, and then put your weapon away and the White Glove Gild members and other patrons should get back to friendly. You lot can then written report to Walter to conclude Pheeble Volition. This path earns you lot the title "Skilful-Natured Rascal", as you will be idolized by the White Glove Guild simply are guilty of breaking their rules by carrying a weapon and attacking Heck in their view. Or, kill him stealthily, due east.chiliad. with the silenced .22 pistol, which is a holdout weapon. Hiding in the casino behind a table is quite doable, you lot may have to burn two or 3 times to impale him before he turns around.
• If yous chose to drug the wine, after the head waiter picks up the drugged vino, you can pickpocket information technology off him with no alter in the current objective (the White Glove Society members volition still become asleep).
  • Also, when you enter the White Glove Order gathering yous have the selection to talk to the members. Attempting to talk to them actually opens upwardly their extended inventory (the dress they are currently wearing volition be listed), which y'all tin can loot without loss of Karma or reputation. Even after finishing the quest, the members will not replace their habiliment or masks, and they will walk around in their underwear. Also if you wake them up when they are drugged by hit one and and so putting your fists away they all will walk around the room and you can however option their pockets equally if they were unconscious and the thespian will not be able to talk to them until they leave.
• If all the securitrons on The Strip were killed previously, information technology can be difficult to finish this quest via framing Gunderson every bit the quest markers will simply signal to empty spaces and the securitrons can have a very long time to respawn. This can be detrimental when playing on Hardcore as you will most probable take to wait for over a week, during which fourth dimension you lot will have to proceed slumber, dehydration and hunger levels down. On the PC version accessing the console, targeting a expressionless securitron and entering the command "resurrect" volition restore the securitron to life and permit you to complete the quest.
• If y'all are working for Mr. House after the quest is completed you have the option to tell him that the White Gloves are now cannibals, he volition then tell you to deal with them in whatsoever way you see fit equally this is a alienation of their contract.
• If yous choose to frame Heck Gunderson, the securitron that comes to deal with him will be a securitron MK I, regardless of whether or not the Courier upgraded Mr. House's securitrons to MK Ii.
• If you want to complete both the Pheeble Will and Beyond The Beef quests with the most experience, the best option is to, if you take the appropriate Barter skill level, get Phebus to agree to pay 400 caps for your assist starting time. Then, go talk to Heck Gunderson and find out his son Ted is missing. Afterward that, speak with Phebus again and tell him what you lot've institute out; he'll pay you and the next set of dialogue options will appear. Only choose 'Goodbye', and so talk to his married woman. Tell her yous'll try to talk Phebus out of it, and then practise and then past whatever methods are at your disposal. He and his wife volition get out without y'all having to kill Ted or Heck. This will give you 413 XP, but only 400 caps. It also requires Spoken language 75. This way yous can bring Ted back to his male parent Heck and receive 589 XP, too as 500 caps. Yous practice however demand Voice communication 35 to ensure you get the Strip and White Glove Gild fame. Also killing Mortimer after you evidence him up will give you 55 XP. Just if you consummate this quest peacefully outset volition neglect the Pheeble Will quest. If y'all already took Ted to Heck, cease the former quest earlier talking to Heck.
• If you bring Ted back to Heck and so impale Heck, the White Glove Society will shun you lot, only Heck'due south hired gun will assistance yous fight them.
• Picking the lock to the door that leads to the cashier's booth will result in negative Karma, and upon approaching the cashier, he will become hostile. Nonetheless, if you simply selection the lock then shut the door, at that place volition be no resulting hostility.
• The only way to receive Strip fame is currently to dissuade Heck Gunderson from imposing a food occludent, which is possible ONLY if yous render Ted to his male parent, thus failing Pheeble Will. Helping Mortimer promotes you to Idolized with the White Gloves, but has no effect on your Strip reputation. (You can also only impale Ted and prevarication to Heck that you merely found him and don't know who did it, that will as well requite you Strip fame, as well as White Glove fame).
• Every bit of version 1.4, neither Mortimer nor Marjorie have lines about cannibalism or Ted Gunderson until you offer to Heck to find his son (at to the lowest degree if you lot aren't a Cannibal and simply accept high Speech). And, reverse to what the walkthrough keeps reiterating, this will really enable you to ask Mortimer for a job. Having Pheeble Will started or non does not seem to exist of relevance. Put another way, this quest is now given but by Heck Gunderson.

Behind the scenes

• Across the Beef was designed by Eric Fenstermaker.
• Beyond the Beef took a very long time to stop during development, as it took many milestones to complete. It was never under consideration to be cut from the game, despite its bugs, because of the quality of the quest - instead, the internal discussions were more along the lines of emphasizing the need to wrap up development of the quest so the squad could focus efforts elsewhere.^{[Not-catechism 1]}
• If the Courier has the Wild Wasteland trait, then after framing Heck Gunderson, the securitron sent to arrest him volition say the line "Dead or alive, you lot're coming with me" only earlier shooting him. This is a quote from the moving picture RoboCop (1987). The vocalism and inflection sound similar to that of Robocop as well.
• Likewise if the Courier has the Wild Wasteland trait, the deceased investigator will exist named "Crusoe." This is in reference to Robinson Crusoe, the protagonist of the classic novel of same name. In the novel, Crusoe is marooned on an island where he encounters cannibals.
• The name of this quest is some other play of words that most probable refers to the song Beyond the Reef, written by J. Pitman in 1948 and made popular in 1950 past Bing Crosby. The song was covered by Elvis Presley and The Ventures, forth with many other artists.

Bugs

• PC Playstation 3 Xbox 360 If you choose to cook the imitation meat pie and then take it, when yous call the head waiter over he will stand in front of the oven and will not movement. ^[verified]
  • On the Xbox 360, if yous put it dorsum and then wait 24 hours, he will have taken it. Brand sure it is however around 7 PM when you leave the kitchen or you volition see the bug mentioned beneath where Mortimer doesn't make his speech.
• PC Playstation 3 Xbox 360 Ted Gunderson may become stuck in gainsay mode, and will not follow y'all through area transitions. To correct, expect one hour or fast travel to The Strip North Gate, Ted should appear soon. When re-entering the Strip, exist cautious equally Ted does not take a passport and will be shot by security if you practice not make information technology to the gate fast enough. Taking the monorail from Camp McCarran will also piece of work. Alternatively, if you lot do not desire to risk Ted dying, you can slowly and advisedly walk into him, pushing him towards Heck. This is assuming yous do not have to travel through any doors. Yous can also apply the 'resurrect' command on him from the console if you're playing the PC version, and it will reset him. Waiting ii to iii hours on the PlayStation iii and Xbox 360 also works. Also, if y'all have a full party, dismissing your humanoid companion on the spot, causes him to act commonly (Tested on PC). ^[verified]
• PC Playstation 3 Xbox 360 If y'all prepare the repast, phone call the waiter, and then go up to the private dining room without Ted, Mortimer may never begin his speech. If you lot try to return later with Ted, the room volition become hostile toward you lot. ^[verified]
• Xbox 360 If y'all are working with the Legion, and leave Boone in the freezer as a substitute meal, make sure you kill him before locking him in. "Back" him upward into the freezer, kill him, return the Gunderson kid to his father, then tell Mortimer. If you do not kill Boone outset, even if you hire another companion after he'due south been eaten, when you become to the Legion camp, you will exist perceived as hostile and attacked on sight. ^[verified]

Gallery

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References

Non-canon

1. ↑ Fallout: New Vegas tenth Ceremony Charity Stream (reference starts at 2:23:fifteen)
   Joshua Sawyer: "'Did I mean to cut Beyond the Beefiness?' No, Beyond the Beef... there were quests that we cutting for complexity or, similar, they got out of control really quickly. Just Beyond the Beef... even though information technology's buggy, is a very expert quest. No... Beyond the Beef did take multiple milestones to finish, which was frustrating, considering at that place was a lot of content to make. But it was a very good quest, so we never talked about cut it, only at that place was always like 'nosotros gotta wrap up Beyond the Beef so we can do other quests in the game.' That was more of the give-and-take."

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